New site theme (July 07) - feedback

i must admit, when i saw it first i thought my browser was playing mad. then again, maybe my browser [i]was[/i] playing mad, because it looked slightly different. anyway, looks good, but i have to get used to it first. the shock...

ummm, Lee, the "places to see in the thud cave" title that is supposed to be on the right hand menu, isnt there. or is it just me?

what places to see thing?nice work on the site lee and everyone,looks good

[quote=Bill Door]wow! nice work on the look of the site, Lee! its all hi-tech looking :)[/quote]

I have but two requests: 1st, that in the active forum topics u put back the number of comments, second, in the points listings, bring the name and the points closer to each other or something to make it legible again

that and that the name of the person u are quaton appears [i]inside[/i] the quoteation box...i forsee problems with that

there'a a few other areas that i think need attention but the list is exhaustive so i won't waste the thread space [nodds at MS and OB] with it.

Thanks for trying to stay On Topic, Sgt. What I've done, tho, because there were lots of comments there about the new theme, and because it deserves to get a thread of it's own, is converted it into a new thread. So please, lets hear everyone's thoughts

MS

[quote=Mr Scrub]...because there were lots of comments there about the new theme, and because it deserves to get a thread of it's own, is converted it into a new thread. So please, lets hear everyone's thoughts[/quote]

Yes, many thanx for that! Events have proceeded quickly so only now getting to comment on things.

Just an update: The quoting thing is "fixed" - a bit different; found some obscure CSS2 code to make the quote boxes a bit more elegant... at least in [url=http://www.mozilla.com/]proper browsers[/url]. Also the names of the person quoting are inside the box (sort of) and the boxes nest inside properly now.

The titles on the sidebars are fixed now. The comment numbers will be fixed soon (and not sure why that flew away but we'll suss it soon).

The userpoints table can be far apart if you have a kilometre-wide screen like Dewi but it's nothing that can't be usable by shrinking the browser size a bit as a workaround. If we get time we might be able to put a max-width statement in although IE will almost certainly ignore it...

There's a nice icon pack we're using and we're happy to load up any other that people contribute (no nicked commercial stuff - must be GPL/LGPL minimum and preferably BSD, PD if it's from someone else, or your own license if it's your work).

We welcome any suggestions but do hurry as we will be in code freeze regarding site interface until sometime next year after this set of website upgrades. Worry not, work will continue on the online Thud client, getgame and other things on the list in the background.

I like it, its most cool but two things which is kinda annoying, is its hard to tell who wrote the post, i know it says but i think its easier to see when its above the picture, also, i think that there should be a line or maybe two lines between the date of the post and the comment e.g

On July 29th, 2007 Lee Alley said:

Mr Scrub wrote:

just so its easier to read, other than that its most prettyful

Angua

weeeeell, is it also possible to not wrap text to images in, oh i see u fixed it, hmm, well could it be done that the name of the person appears below thier avatar and not as part fot eh text and that the date of the post be at the end fo the post like ti was...i go a little crazy sometimes...and what's the eta with the not letting u post comments onti the site problem...still at large i'm afraid

- The "Not Spam" link under each post is still broken.
- The other thing, which has a long and chequered history with me, is the "X new" link in the forum view.
Looks something like this: (the link that I've put in to show you which bit I'm talking about doesn't go anywhere)

SaneAlex vs FlorisXIV 33 9 weeks 5 days ago 3 days 22 hours ago
(KLASH,Doubles) [url=#]10 new[/url] by FlorisXIV by SANEAlex


This link should take you to the first new post when you click on it. And it does, as long as the post in question is on the first page of the thread - otherwise it doesn't work.

- Just discovered: the "code" blocks come up as a white-ish block with white-ish text in it...

MS

[quote=Bill Door]wow! nice work on the look of the site, Lee! its all hi-tech looking

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Oh yes! I haven't been on the site for several weeks and even then it was anonymously not logged in. I thought it looked lovely before but has definitely been improved

looks good

Is it just me? when someone quotes something the text the hav quoted overlaps the name of who the quote is from?

does that make sence lol

Angua

with me it does happen when someone quotes a quote (quote² ) (or at least when someone quotes a quote that quotes a quote (quote³)), but not with a normal quote...

Hmmm, so it breaks in IE6, eh? Typical. Has Microsoft ever done anything well? Oh yeah, there was Excel 4... although that wasn't as good as Lotus 1-2-3 but looked nicer and was easier to use...

I wonder about IE5.x? Checking........... Hmmm, works fine (mostly!). A bit of z-index luvvin' should put it to bed, so to speak....

So. Internet Explorer 6. Right. Gonna have to add some hacks to the conditional state CSS but not tonite. Maybe tomorrow

BD's earlier point, about the disappearing right-hand menu, hadn't come up for me before, but as of today (I think), it's not appearing when I'm in the "My Account" section.

MS

that wasnt exactely my point, but it happenes to mee too anyway, so what the heck.

[quote=Mr Scrub]BD's earlier point, about the disappearing right-hand menu, hadn't come up for me before, but as of today (I think), it's not appearing when I'm in the "My Account" section.

MS[/quote]

The right hand menu disappears whenever anyone is in a user area (such as your profile page) or in an admin area (such as Druids might be from time to time). This is a feature, particularly for those with smaller monitors.

The right hand menu disappeared on this thread because the Code bit Scrubby did above borked the style setup. It's been fixed (kind of) but I'm experimenting with a few things for a permanent fix.

Oh, also, the librarians.png graphic has been replaced with a librarians.gif file because IE6 is too thick to understand png alpha transparency that every other browser in the known universe can handle with ease We've put n some clever stuff to take care of the background thud graphics which basically means you poor muppets who can't live without IE don't get the full graphical effect. Sorry. I blame Billy G and his microserfs

still having glitches with the wrapping text to images thing just fyi...i hate that acronym

[quote]We've put n some clever stuff to take care of the background thud graphics which basically means you poor muppets who can't live without IE don't get the full graphical effect.[/quote]

im using firefox now, but i cant see the background. i tried playing with the contrast but nothing worked. all i can see is the big "Thud! The Discworld board game" title on the top.

i also switched from ie to firefox a couple of weeks ago, at least when on thud, and am now giving opera a go as a total alternative. and i can't see the background, either. the quotes problem was with firefox, but it didn't really bother me. right now i can't find any quotes³, but as soon as i do i'll tell you what they look like with opera...

i've used opera for ages an i can't see the background

is opera a browser?

yes. and so far i quite like it. except for the missing background. but that's also a problem with firefox, so...

[quote=Ratdeath]with me it does happen when someone quotes a quote (quote² ) (or at least when someone quotes a quote that quotes a quote (quote³)), but not with a normal quote...[/quote]

eerm, what?

It also doesnt show the background for me and im on IE

Angua

uh, hun that ain't the browser's fault i used to see the Bdrop fine before...still do on a page that hasn;'t beenrefreshed of ra bout a day

i love how if u want to gogle search, u just type g in the address bar and what u want to look for

i think i have figured out what angua's problem is. reading through a whole lot of 2 years old posts does help .
anyway, what i noticed is that when you quote a person
[quote=Ratdeath]like this[/quote]
everything works just fine, but without the person
[quote]like this[/quote]
the little box around "quote" is missing.

well that's easily fixed u just have to type [ quote = {insert name of recruit} ] but without the square brackets....and then the usual [ /quote ]

hmm, well i haven't tried to change my settings but for what it's worth, that's how i've had ti set for ages and it still owrks

*sigh* i know that. that's how i've been doing it all along. i'm not that dumb, you know. but there are some quotes around that don't have the name. plus, i merely tried to visualize what i think angua was trying to tell us.

oh, and the background does show on IE with me, but not on opera and not on firefox.

Just tried changing to most recent comments first and it works for me.

oh, i know why it doesnt work. i didnt see the "save settings" button. and now i feel stupid

i have a complaint too - i try to make the comment settings to show my the new comments first instead of last, and it refuses to do so.

(moved here by Lee )

Just noticed a little misplaced tag: just above the "recent blog posts" title a tag is being displayed.

MS

it looks like a tag to you? i see it as < / script >.

yeah, same for me.

OK, the background pic is back. Hold down the Ctrl button (bottom left/right of PC keyboards; could be anywhere on a laptop...) whilst re-loading the page and it should appear in it's newer brighter glory.

I was trying to get it to display with CSS compression but without result. The CSS was valid (AFAIK) but there's a bug in the compression method thus it's back to plan B (which will get done after the Jamboree).

The background always worked in IE because IE users (IE6 and below) get served up the old background that was always there due to transparency deficiencies in IE. Sorry.

The script tags shouldn't be showing now (crosses fingers...)

(Edit: apparently not. Damn!)

[quote=Ratdeath]I think i have figured out what angua's problem is. reading through a whole lot of 2 years old posts does help[/quote]

Hmmm, we were considering archiving everything after a certain point in time . What do you all think of that?

i dont see why. it doesnt interrupt or something, and we can bring back old topics from the dead like the conspirasion theory. oooohhhh...... [b]now[/b] i see why you want to archive old topics

[quote=Bill Door]i dont see why. it doesnt interrupt or something, and we can bring back old topics from the dead like the conspirasion theory. oooohhhh...... [b]now[/b] i see why you want to archive old topics :D[/quote]

Ha ha! LOL

No we thought it might be getting a bit crowded in the forums but if you all want to leave them then cool! It's really not important; I think Ponder suggested it a while ago and we argued they should stay... (volunteering to do work?? Not me guv'nor! )

Let's know if anyone feels strongly about it.

By the way, the "Gotta reload the page twice before successfully posting" bug seems fixed. For me at least. Let's know if it's still happening to anyone else.

[quote=Bill Door]oh, i know why it doesnt work. i didnt see the "save settings" button. and now i feel stupid :)[/quote]

that happened to me back in the day...course i didn;t think i was stupid, i just figured the designer should have thought of it before i arrived and so he was stupid

[quote=Lee Alley] (volunteering to do work?? Not me guv'nor! )

Let's know if anyone feels strongly about it.
[/quote]
i don't feel strongly about it, maybe because i'm not quite sure if i get it, but i can see a hint there....

[quote=Lee Alley]By the way, the "Gotta reload the page twice before successfully posting" bug seems fixed. For me at least. Let's know if it's still happening to anyone else.[/quote]
hasn't happened to me again yet, either. since like yesterday morning me thinks.

as of...well now, there are only 825 topics on the site....let's do the maths, if all the librarians work for a few months taging a few topics a night....it should be right

have you taken in account that site suggestions, announcements and der springende werwolf are already completely tagged? probably not. plus i dunno how far bill is with forum thud, but i guess that should work fairly fast because you don't need to read everything, only find out what kind of game it is.

wow,i certainly have been missing a lot.
firstly i'm kinda disappointed/sad/hurt that the banana banner didn't pull through...you know who you are,yes you do,don't look away ...

anyway,last night i was on and every menu was gone 'cept for the navigation menu,and the login and my account pages were all across the screen,dunno if anyone else experienced that.

i didn't. but now it's gone?

even if they weren't, 5 librarians doing 4 threads a night could get the job done in 40 days +/- 1

sounds fair

exactly

now: GET TO WORK! [whip crack]

hard workers shall be rewarded with peanut shells

the books forum is also done.... i think i need more tea.